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#322121 - 04/17/11 01:08 AM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: Scottyee]
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally Posted By: Scottyee


After what Sweentech1 posted, I'm now confused whether the Bosa FV50L I'm using is adequate or if need to puchase a Yamaha FC7 now. Please advise. Thanks. - Scott



Originally Posted By: Sweentech1
Hi Scottyee,

The later FV50L and H model can both be used as an expression pedal, as it has a suitable connector for this purpose, and an in-line volume pedal.

Some expression pedal models such as the EV5 or EV7 from Roland/Boss have a knob on them for setting a minimum volume level too. This restricts the active area of the sweep in the pedal, so that you never make the setting too low.




Scott...I believe you are using your FV50L in the proper way...according to Sweetie, the pedal can be used as an expression pedal, by connecting the way that you have done with your Tyros4. You don't need to buy an FC-7...save your money for those PEI mussels.

Ian
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#322124 - 04/17/11 02:37 AM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: Scottyee]
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Hi Ian

The Wersi Expression pedal that I use has a toe switch on either side of it, and I just program these to do whatever I want and store the settings in the pre-set, so sustain is easily achievable without taking my foot off the pedal.

Bill
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#322128 - 04/17/11 04:07 AM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: Scottyee]
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Hi Scottyee

The FV50L is not actually designed for how you are using it, but if it works then I wouldn't bother changing. At the end of the day, they all just have a pot inside them adjusting the volume if it were a master volume controller on the keyboard. The one I was saying had a dedicated expression socket was the FV500L not the FV50L (which doesn't have it) but as I say... if it works then there is no problem.

John
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#322130 - 04/17/11 04:47 AM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: Scottyee]
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http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FCV100.aspx

This is your absolute best bang for the buck, bar none. It will do what you want, is extremely well built, and I only paid $25.00 for mine. I still use it with my C1 when I choose not to carry my PK7a pedalboard along. The Pk7a has an integrated EXPRESSION pedal (organs do use 'volume' pedals smile ) as well as two other (assignable) switches mounted on either side of the expression pedal. I can't get used to the side switches (intended for Leslie control) and use a 'half-moon' switch instead (B3 style).

Here's an idea; learn to play pedals (bass) and get a PK7a.

chas


Edited by cgiles (04/17/11 04:48 AM)
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#322131 - 04/17/11 05:05 AM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: Scottyee]
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For those of us who play bass pedals, the PK7a is a nice unit, however, I 'm really lazy and I'd rather have the accompaniment do it for me...besides, I don't like using those side switches for sustain...they're great for other functions like Leslie speed etc, but I'd find it easier re-learning to use my left foot for the sustain.

Plus, if you stand up playing, using bass pedals isn't an option.

To each his own, I guess...so far the FC-7 is still proving the best for my needs. It also has an angle adjustment for use when standing.

My favorite sustain pedal is the Roland DP-10, which has the rubber heel flap...what a clever rig it is.


Ian
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#322132 - 04/17/11 06:33 AM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: Scottyee]
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Jeez Ian, I wasn't REALLY advocating that Scott use a PK7a for his needs; I recommended the Behringer unit, the rest was just a half-joke. I use bass pedals because the organ is my primary instrument. If I played arranger exclusively, I wouldn't use bass pedals either. No need to.

chas
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#322133 - 04/17/11 06:43 AM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: Scottyee]
ianmcnll Offline
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I know Chas, I got your drift...I believe learning bass pedals at this stage of the game, is like learning to play drums...

Smileys aren't necessary for some half-jokes, but they do help (at least in my case...duh!).

From reading posts here on SZ, Behringer stuff is either loved or hated...I've never used their products.

I sent you a PM with info on the new Hammond SK2, in case you haven't seen/heard it yet.

Ian
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#322137 - 04/17/11 07:29 AM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: Scottyee]
cgiles Offline
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I googled it after seeing your reference to it. I have mixed feelings after reading some of the reviews, but I am pretty sure I would not trade my C1 for one. Bottom line; if it sounded as good as the XKc3 or C1/C2, had TWO sets of drawbars (3 with bass) and STILL weighed in at 35 lbs., I'd trade for one. The consensus seems to be that it does not sound that great. From the demos I heard, I'd have to agree.

chas
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#322141 - 04/17/11 08:16 AM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: cgiles]
ianmcnll Offline
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Originally Posted By: cgiles
I googled it after seeing your reference to it. I have mixed feelings after reading some of the reviews, but I am pretty sure I would not trade my C1 for one. Bottom line; if it sounded as good as the XKc3 or C1/C2, had TWO sets of drawbars (3 with bass) and STILL weighed in at 35 lbs., I'd trade for one. The consensus seems to be that it does not sound that great. From the demos I heard, I'd have to agree.

chas


The lack of two sets of drawbars wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but, so far, it doesn't sound as good as the XK3c to me either...that would be a deal breaker.

I believe the local store will bring one in, since of of the sales guys is an organist, so I will have a chance to try one out.

Ian
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#322175 - 04/17/11 07:09 PM Re: Utilizing a "VOLUME PEDAL" in Arranger Playing [Re: ianmcnll]
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Check out my video in the Yamaha Freestyle Performance Contest and you will see that the FC7 foot-switch is a key part of my performance. I use it to add vibrato to organs, wahwah to guitars, growl to sax, falls to brass. I don't perform without it. Please don't forget to vote for me in the semi-finals!

www.yamaha.com/freestyle

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